From akreiser@GEOGRAPHY.UCL.AC.UKTue Apr 29 15:20:24 1997 Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 10:43:34 +0000 From: Annette Kreiser To: Multiple recipients of list DIATOM-L Subject: Direct entry of diatom counts on PC Dear diatomists, Our lab is beginning to investigate the various programs and technology available for the direct entry of diatom counts onto a PC (i.e. as each valve is counted rather than entering the totals for each taxon at the end of the count). I know there are several programs around designed for pollen counting but I wonder whether anyone has used or adapted these for diatom counting? We don't have room (or resources) for a desktop PC for each microscope but could accommodate smaller Psion-sized machines for data input which could then be uploaded into our Oracle database. Some specific questions that have arisen in our group are: 1) Has anyone investigated or used barcodes and light pens for counting diatoms? The idea of putting a barcoded label next to each name on your countsheet and simply scanning it when you see that diatom seems very appealing. 2) Is anyone using a program that allows you to add additional data for each valve counted, e.g. striae count, valve dimensions, state of preservation? Any comments or advice greatly appreciated. Annette ----------------------------------------------------- Annette Kreiser (akreiser@geog.ucl.ac.uk) Environmental Change Research Centre 26 Bedford Way, LONDON, WC1H OAP Tel: +44 (0)171 387 7050 ext 5558 Fax: +44 (0)171 380 7565 http://www.geog.ucl.ac.uk/ecrc/ ----------------------------------------------------- _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ ----------------------------------------------------- From slcooper@ACPUB.DUKE.EDUTue Apr 29 15:20:24 1997 Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 09:22:32 -0500 From: Sherri Cooper To: Multiple recipients of list DIATOM-L Subject: Re: Direct entry of diatom counts on PC Dear Annette, I use a counting program for diatoms that was designed by my husband (David Cooper). It is a Windows program, and saves information to a Paradox database. I can add information on striae counts, location of valves, anything I want, as well as store images of the diatoms along with the name. It has been very useful to me. There are a couple of features that I would like to add and we have talked about updating the program. If there is enough interest, perhaps we might get around to it sooner! In the meantime, I use it regularly for my counts. Best wishes, Sherri Cooper On Mon, 27 Jan 1997 10:43:34 +0000 Annette Kreiser wrote: > Dear diatomists, > > Our lab is beginning to investigate the various programs and technology > available for the direct entry of diatom counts onto a PC (i.e. as each valve > is counted rather than entering the totals for each taxon at the end of the > count). I know there are several programs around designed for pollen counting > but I wonder whether anyone has used or adapted these for diatom counting? > We don't have room (or resources) for a desktop PC for each microscope but > could accommodate smaller Psion-sized machines for data input which could then > be uploaded into our Oracle database. > > Some specific questions that have arisen in our group are: > > 1) Has anyone investigated or used barcodes and light pens for counting > diatoms? The idea of putting a barcoded label next to each name on your > countsheet and simply scanning it when you see that diatom seems very > appealing. > > 2) Is anyone using a program that allows you to add additional data for each > valve counted, e.g. striae count, valve dimensions, state of preservation? > > Any comments or advice greatly appreciated. > > Annette > > ----------------------------------------------------- > Annette Kreiser (akreiser@geog.ucl.ac.uk) > Environmental Change Research Centre > 26 Bedford Way, LONDON, WC1H OAP > Tel: +44 (0)171 387 7050 ext 5558 > Fax: +44 (0)171 380 7565 > > http://www.geog.ucl.ac.uk/ecrc/ > ----------------------------------------------------- > _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ > _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ > _/_/_/_/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/ > _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ > _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ > ----------------------------------------------------- ---------------------- Sherri Cooper Duke Wetland Center Box 90333 Durham, NC 27708 (919) 613-8007 FAX (919) 684-8741 slcooper@acpub.duke.edu From Lajos.Hajdu@SVA.SETue Apr 29 15:20:24 1997 Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 16:42:02 +0100 From: Lajos Hajdu To: Multiple recipients of list DIATOM-L Subject: pc solutions for counting To Anette Kreiser question my answer is that light-pen and barcode is working well but there are some practical problems. You can not compile big enough barcode sheet for the usual 100-500 taxa you are usually working with. It is not ergonomic to handle a big sheet. In which order the taxa will put on the paper? systematic order, alphabetically or in order of occurrence. Each way will be harder to handle when the list is increasing. I have tested it. From one sheet soon you want to go over to a multi-page system where the single sheets are foiled into hard-plastic cover (otherwise the pen erases slowly the most used barcodes). After a while the system will be more pain as use :-) Tried an other solution: digitizer board whith replaceable counting sheets. Here you put on the sheet X12, where even small alga icons could be in a well defined square. The program is told if someone checked for form nr X12 then in the square 0,0,1,1 is representing the species x. With an other sheet all the squares are recoded, all information is stored in a database. My self-built program storing all data in a series of databases. Unfortunately it is very specific to my own projects, I never had the time to make it more general, build a user friendly interface. Lajos Hajdu Lajos Hajdu SVA, Ulls vaeg 2 S-750 07 Uppsala, Sweden tel: +46 18 674232 fax: +46 18 309162 From lowe@OPIE.BGSU.EDUTue Apr 29 15:20:25 1997 Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 09:00:31 -0500 From: Rex Lowe To: Multiple recipients of list DIATOM-L Subject: Re: Direct entry of diatom counts on PC Re: automated counting We find direct entry of diatom enumeration with a computer keyboard to be most efficient when working on a well-known flora that demands many replicate counts. Our system is described in: [Johnson, D. W. and R. L. Lowe. 1995. Diatoms and the information "super highway". IN A Century of Diatom Research in North America. J. P. Kocilek Ed., Koeltz Scientific Books USA, Champaign, ILp. 175-182.]. We have linked and dedicated counting computers at each of our three counting stations. The number of species that can be coded on a 10 digit touch pad is infinite. Each taxon has its own tone, thus the counter can feel the numerical keyboard and listen for the entry of the diatom into the computer without removing his or her eyes from the microscope. After counting a few replicates of a given flora one can recognize a taxon by its computer tone, thus misentries are easy to detect. Probably the greatest benefit of this system is that it no longer necessitates reentry of data (and the chance for mis-entry). Counts can be opened with standard spreadsheet or statistical software. Rex Lowe Dept. of Biol Scie. BGSU Bowling Green, OH 43403 lowe@opie.bgsu.edu http://www.bgsu.edu/departments/biology/facpages/lowe/ http://www.bgsu.edu/departments/biology/algae/Algae_Images.html From Lajos.Hajdu@SVA.SETue Apr 29 15:20:25 1997 Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 17:04:11 +0100 From: Lajos Hajdu To: Multiple recipients of list DIATOM-L Subject: counting ideas I was experimenting long time with devices making counting and recording easier. I did not had the time and the means to test the following idea: mount a drawing tube on the counting microscope. When recording the counts I do not have to move my eyes from the binocular just increase the table light and in the microscope I see the counting protocol and my hand takeing notes. Afterwards I decrease the room-light (perhaps with a foot-operated pedal). Touch sensitive screen with alga names and icons on the screen is an other possibility. The list can be re-sorted in any order on the screen, list size is practically without limit. What would you pay for such a counting program? If we can put together a good specification and we can convince a programmer that here is a small but interested market we may get this program. Lajos Hajdu SVA, Ulls vaeg 2 S-750 07 Uppsala, Sweden tel: +46 18 674232 fax: +46 18 309162 From dkirscht@ZOO.UVM.EDUTue Apr 29 15:20:25 1997 Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 10:21:42 -0800 From: David Kirschtel To: Multiple recipients of list DIATOM-L Subject: Re: Direct entry of diatom counts on PC You might want to try Shane Brooks Counter (v4.0). (I think) I've attached his web page to this message, otherwise go to : http://www.ntu.edu.au/science/mdouglas/asl_count.html - works on any DOS based computer (including XTs). - 4-tier data backup - 600 species per file - 1000 samples per file It comes as close to the look and feel of the tally whackers as I've seen. And if you massage the info correctly (data has to be integers)you can also include sample info in the count e.g. substrate area/volume dilution volume/aliquots transect lengths etc. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- David Kirschtel | Dept. of Botany | When you put your hand in a flowing Univ. of Vermont | stream, you touch the last of what Burlington, VT 05405-0086 | has gone before and the first of | what is yet to come. tel 802.656.0429 | email dkirscht@moose.uvm.edu | - Leonardo di Vinci http://www.uvm.edu/~dkirscht | (The Notebooks, 1508-18) [Part 2, Text 89 lines] [Unable to print this part] From ector@CRPCU.LUTue Apr 29 15:20:25 1997 Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 22:13:00 MET From: Luc Ector To: Multiple recipients of list DIATOM-L Subject: Re: Direct entry of diatom counts on PC: "OMNIDIA" Dear Dr. Annette Kreiser Do you know this excellent program for PC and Mac? LECOINTE, C., COSTE, M., and PRYGIEL, J. (1993): "OMNIDIA" software for taxonomy, calculation of diatom indices and inventories management. Hydrobiologia 269/270: 509-513. PRYGIEL, J., COSTE, M., and LECOINTE, C. (1992): Le logiciel OMNIDIA: un outil informatique pour l'evaluation de la qualite des eaux courantes et la gestion des inventaires diatomiques. Actes du XI eme Colloque des diatomistes de langue francaise. Agence de l'Eau Artois Picardie. Douai 24-27 sept. 91: 151-167. You can send a fax to Catherine LECOINTE if you want to buy the last version of this program "OMNIDIA2" (september 1996: 8000 taxa !!!): Catherine LECOINTE Conseil Informatique Haut Poulvere F-24240 Monbazillac FRANCE Tel: 33-5-53.58.20.00 or 33-5-53.58.38.17 Fax: 33-5-53-61-26-73 Best wishes, Luc ECTOR ------------------------------------------------------------------- Luc ECTOR CREBS (Cellule de Recherche en Environnement et Biotechnologies) CRP-CU (Centre de Recherche Public - Centre Universitaire) 162a, avenue de la Faiencerie L-1511 Luxembourg Grand-Duche de Luxembourg Tel.: (+352) 46.66.44-416 Fax: (+352) 46.66.44-413 E-Mail: ector@crpcu.lu ------------------------------------------------------------------- >Dear diatomists, > >Our lab is beginning to investigate the various programs and technology >available for the direct entry of diatom counts onto a PC (i.e. as each valve >is counted rather than entering the totals for each taxon at the end of the >count). I know there are several programs around designed for pollen counting >but I wonder whether anyone has used or adapted these for diatom counting? >We don't have room (or resources) for a desktop PC for each microscope but >could accommodate smaller Psion-sized machines for data input which could then >be uploaded into our Oracle database. > >Some specific questions that have arisen in our group are: > >1) Has anyone investigated or used barcodes and light pens for counting >diatoms? The idea of putting a barcoded label next to each name on your >countsheet and simply scanning it when you see that diatom seems very >appealing. > >2) Is anyone using a program that allows you to add additional data for each >valve counted, e.g. striae count, valve dimensions, state of preservation? > >Any comments or advice greatly appreciated. > >Annette > >----------------------------------------------------- > Annette Kreiser (akreiser@geog.ucl.ac.uk) > Environmental Change Research Centre > 26 Bedford Way, LONDON, WC1H OAP > Tel: +44 (0)171 387 7050 ext 5558 > Fax: +44 (0)171 380 7565 > >http://www.geog.ucl.ac.uk/ecrc/ >----------------------------------------------------- > _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ > _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ > _/_/_/_/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/ > _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ > _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ >----------------------------------------------------- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- Luc ECTOR CREBS (Cellule de Recherche en Environnement et BiotechnologieS) CRP-CU (Centre de Recherche Public - Centre Universitaire) 162a, avenue de la Faiencerie L-1511 Luxembourg Grand-Duche de Luxembourg Tel.: (+352) 46.66.44-416 Fax: (+352) 46.66.44-413 E-Mail: ector@crpcu.lu ------------------------------------------------------------------- From dkirscht@ZOO.UVM.EDUTue Apr 29 15:20:25 1997 Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 17:06:48 -0800 From: David Kirschtel To: Multiple recipients of list DIATOM-L Subject: a few ideas re:counters Given the recent discussion regarding counters would it be worthwhile to organize a workshop/symposium at this years NADS? A little show-n-tell/ Dueling Keypads event. I know that Rex Lowe et al and Paul Hamilton have given demonstrations of their systems at various meetings, but some of these other systems sound interesting as well. It sounds like everyone is pretty much going at it alone, is there any benefit to getting a number of these systems together at the same time so that we can all compare notes. Perhaps concluding by generating a wish list of features that we'd like to see in the ideal counting system. On a related note re: commercial vendors... counting diatoms isn't that much different than counting pollen, zooplankton, benthic inverts, fish scales, otoliths etc. Do the commercial developers even know that this market exists? There are a number of companies which produce Laboratory Information Management Systems (LIMS), are any of their products adaptable to this situation (and affordable for those of us without NIH backing)or is it time to send them some wake-up email. Sure this market isn't as big as, say, gel reading software but given all the provincial/ state, federal and private labs doing environmental monitoring work I expect the market is big enough to make it worth their while. If this workshop takes place should they be invited so as to either get an idea of our needs for the development of a future product or to present their products (if this type of application already exists)? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- David Kirschtel | Dept. of Botany | When you put your hand in a flowing Univ. of Vermont | stream, you touch the last of what Burlington, VT 05405-0086 | has gone before and the first of | what is yet to come. tel 802.656.0429 | email dkirscht@moose.uvm.edu | - Leonardo di Vinci http://www.uvm.edu/~dkirscht | (The Notebooks, 1508-18) From djohnso@OPIE.BGSU.EDUTue Apr 29 15:20:25 1997 Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 23:30:49 -0400 From: Dave Johnson To: Multiple recipients of list DIATOM-L Subject: Count program Greetings "fuzzy eyed" counting cohorts, I'm releasing my counting program (for Mac & DOS) to the Net. Its been floating around for awhile hither and yon. Its designed around the 10-key part of the keyboard with a not quite, but close, infinite number of taxa available. It also does some diversity index calculations you might find useful. The "ReadMe" files explain its use and benefits in some detail. Since its free...WYSIWYG. Rex Lowe's posting has already highlighted many benefits, but understated the time savings per count. Its psuedo-menu driven, so you need to know a bit, but not much, about your operating system. I'd like to echo the earlier observation that computing resources need not be a hinderance. My program, and some others I presume, will run just fine on computers with 286 chips, Mac Plus, SE, or Classic. Believe me, you'll be hard pressed to count faster than these 'boat anchors' can score. If you use the program send Rex a TACKY postcard...he needs more!!! Dr. Rex Lowe Dept. of Biol Scie. BGSU Bowling Green, OH 43403 OH...the URL http://www.bgsu.edu/departments/biology/algae/count/count.html Regards, -- Dave Johnson Dept. of Biol. Scie. BGSU Bowling Green, Oh 43402 djohnso@opie.bgsu.edu http://www.bgsu.edu/departments/biology/algae/Algae_Images.html From djohnso@OPIE.BGSU.EDUTue Apr 29 15:20:25 1997 Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 09:53:38 -0400 From: Dave Johnson To: Multiple recipients of list DIATOM-L Subject: Count program Greetings, My apologies for the URL problem to my counting programs. That is now solved. The Mac version and ReadMe files are downloading just fine, however you will need either BinHex4 or StuffIt Expander to decompress it. The DOS version is not doing so well. Netscape thinks its a text file and displays it as gibberish rather than downloading it. I've now uploaded a zipped version that, hopefully, Netscape will transfer properly (of course you'll need to unzip it). If someone successfully downloads it please let me know. Working with DOS applications from a Mac platform is a bit tricky. http://www.bgsu.edu/departments/biology/algae/count/count.html Regards, -- Dave Johnson Dept. of Biol. Scie. BGSU Bowling Green, Oh 43402 djohnso@opie.bgsu.edu http://www.bgsu.edu/departments/biology/algae/Algae_Images.html From djohnso@OPIE.BGSU.EDUTue Apr 29 15:20:25 1997 Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 13:53:11 -0400 From: Dave Johnson To: Multiple recipients of list DIATOM-L Subject: Count program (DOS) Greetings...again, First, thanks to the people that kept me informed about the problems they were having downloading and getting the DOS version of my count program to run. Their input helped track things down. I THINK I have everything in working order. I was able to download and successfully run the currently posted DOS version this a.m. from a PC station. Its now compressed with PKZip, Netscape thinks it can open it if its not compressed (DOS or Mac). The garbled screen in the DOS shell from the old unzipped file came from either a corrupted original .exe file or during the upload. A reminder, its not Windows compatible and must run under DOS and don't forget the postcard. Good luck and thanks for your patience, -- Dave Johnson Dept. of Biol. Scie. BGSU Bowling Green, Oh 43402 djohnso@opie.bgsu.edu http://www.bgsu.edu/departments/biology/algae/Algae_Images.html From Lajos.Hajdu@SVA.SETue Apr 29 15:20:25 1997 Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 14:26:05 +0100 From: Lajos Hajdu To: Multiple recipients of list DIATOM-L Subject: an other counter In my collection of counters there is an oldie: Paul B. Hamilton's 1990 (Hydrobiologia 194:23-30), its freeware, non-compiled basic. What to choose? It's a matter of taste, shane Brook's gives the best impression. It is though not easy to remember all the species coded as single keyboard keys. A better interface would be nice :-) Lajos Hajdu From slcooper@ACPUB.DUKE.EDUTue Apr 29 15:20:25 1997 Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 09:55:14 -0500 From: Sherri Cooper To: Multiple recipients of list DIATOM-L Subject: Species Count Program available Hi everyone, If you are interested in a Windows program for keeping track of species counts that also has room for notes and digital images, I have put our program up on the ftp site here at the School of the Environment at Duke. There is a Count.zip file that contains a readme file ("SCreadme" for Species Count readme), the Count.exe file and several example files. We are still working on updating this program, so if you have any ideas, let me know. For those who have already seen this program, it hasn't changed much yet! But I use it all the time, and find it very helpful for keeping track of my counts. To get the file, ftp to: Login: anonymous password: (your e-mail address) (then at the "ftp" prompt...) ftp> cd pub/faculty/cooper ftp> binary ftp> get Count.zip ftp> bye Let me know if you have any problems, and I will see what I can do about it! From J.Berges@QUEENS-BELFAST.AC.UKTue Apr 29 15:20:53 1997 Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 10:49:22 PST From: John Berges To: Multiple recipients of list DIATOM-L Subject: Counters See also: Roff, J. C., and R. R. Hopcroft. 1986. High precision microcomputer based measuring system for ecological research. Can. J. Fish. Aquat. Sci. 43: 2044-2048. With a digitizing tablet and drawing tube, you can quickly add measurements to counts. _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ Dr. John A. Berges _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ Biology and Biochemistry _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ Queen's University, Belfast _/ _/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ BT9 7BL Northern Ireland _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/ FAX: 44 (0)1232 236 505 _/ From ector@CRPCU.LUTue Apr 29 15:35:59 1997 Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 14:58:00 MET From: Luc Ector To: Multiple recipients of list DIATOM-L Subject: Description "OMNIDIA2" program for diatom counts and indices [The following text is in the "iso-8859-1" character set] [Your display is set for the "US-ASCII" character set] [Some characters may be displayed incorrectly] Description "OMNIDIA2" program for diatom counts and indices ******* OMNIDIA2 (Version 1997 in english or in french) ******** 1/ FILES ORGANIZATION The database includes three main files - families 8 records - genera 324 records - species 7700 records about Each specie is part of a type which itself is part of a family. Records are identified by a single 4 letters code. For each specie, the program stores many informations : fullname, references, synonyms, family, type, sensitivity and indication of value of ecological indices. A scannered figure of the specie can also be stored. 2/ INVENTORIES ORGANIZATION All the inventories are stored in the same file. They are identified by a specific number. For each sample the program stores : date of sampling, area, river, location, mileage indication, temperature, special information Entering the species quantites (taxons) can be performed either : - by direct entering, each key of the keybord corresponding to one specie. The program summs and sort all the selected species. (4 different forms are proposed : calcidic, acid, basic, types) - or by entering on the keyboard the exact code of each specie and its abundancy Whatever method is used, the species are summed up and sorted in alphabetic order. There is no limit to the number of species. After each counting, the program shows the total amounts and the 11 different indices of the sample, the ecological characteristics (PH, salinity, trophic degree etc..) and the IBD graph. Every indication can be modified (river, date, temperature), counting details can be modified as well, modifications, additions,cancellations can be performed, all calculated values are recalculated such as : totals, indices etc.. It is possible to duplicate a complete preparation in order to perform simulations, the duplicated preparation will bear a different number; Preparations can be cancelled either individually or by batch between two numbers. 3/ FINDINGS AND LISTINGS Each preparation can be printed, the detail of the species is shown with fullname and abundancy percentage (sorting in decreasing value of percentage). Selection can be made between all the preparations through a multiple criteria research: date, location, temperature and also abundancy percentage of 4 species. 3 listings are then available : - simple list with species code and percentage - detailed list : codes, fullnames, abundancy percentage, indices and ratios. - panels : species are across and preparations are down. names are shown in full, and totals are calculated for each line and each column. Indices of each preparation are listed at the end of the panel. If the panel includes more than 14 preparations, it is necessary to export and read the panel with a spread sheet (Excel for instance) or a word processor in order to print the whole panel. 4/ CONCLUSION Omnidia is a very easy program thanks to its conviviality. There is no limit to the number of recordings in every file (including the number of species in one preparation) Everyone can complete the database supplied with the program with his own specific species. For more information: ------------------------------ Catherine LECOINTE CLCI F-24240 Haut Poulvère FRANCE Tel : 33 - 5-53-58-20-00 FAX: 33 -5-53-61-26-73 References: ------------------- LECOINTE C., COSTE M. & PRYGIEL J. (1993): "OMNIDIA" software for taxonomy, calculation of diatom indices and inventories management. Hydrobiologia 269/270: 509-513. PRYGIEL J., COSTE M., & LECOINTE C. (1992): Le logiciel OMNIDIA: un outil informatique pour l'evaluation de la qualite des eaux courantes et la gestion des inventaires diatomiques. Actes du XI eme Colloque des Diatomistes de Langue Francaise. Agence de l'Eau Artois-Picardie. Douai 24-27 sept. 91: 151-167. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Luc ECTOR CREBS (Cellule de Recherche en Environnement et BiotechnologieS) CRP-CU (Centre de Recherche Public - Centre Universitaire) 162a, avenue de la Faiencerie L-1511 Luxembourg Grand-Duche de Luxembourg Tel.: (+352) 46.66.44-416 Fax: (+352) 46.66.44-413 E-Mail: ector@crpcu.lu ------------------------------------------------------------------- From slcooper@ACPUB.DUKE.EDUThu May 1 18:26:54 1997 Date: Fri, 21 Feb 1997 11:04:18 -0500 From: Sherri Cooper To: Multiple recipients of list DIATOM-L Subject: Species Count Program available (fwd) I am re-sending the below message, because I have gotten some response that the name of the file should be all lower case to make it easier to download. I have changed the instructions accordingly below, if you are interested in looking at this program. It was great to see some of you at the ASLO meeting in Santa Fe! ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 09:55:14 -0500 (EST) From: Sherri Cooper To: Diatom Listserver Subject: Species Count Program available Hi everyone, If you are interested in a Windows program for keeping track of species counts that also has room for notes and digital images, I have put our program up on the ftp site here at the School of the Environment at Duke. There is a count.zip file that contains a readme file ("SCreadme" for Species Count readme), the Count.exe file and several example files. We are still working on updating this program, so if you have any ideas, let me know. For those who have already seen this program, it hasn't changed much yet! But I use it all the time, and find it very helpful for keeping track of my counts. To get the file, ftp to: Login: anonymous password: (your e-mail address) (then at the "ftp" prompt...) ftp> cd pub/faculty/cooper ftp> binary ftp> get count.zip ftp> bye Let me know if you have any problems, and I will see what I can do about it! Sherri Cooper Duke Wetland Center Box 90333 Durham, NC 27708 USA